LC: I'm proud to say that I've had experience with Mr. Leigh. Although your characterizations of him as a "muppet" and a "nob head" are much too kind. Look around on his website and you'll find MANY more comments made about me than about Ed. Leigh also attacks Donn Yarnall on the same site.

 

Well naturally!  Voodoo Louie has so much more to SAY, therefore so many more CONTRADICTIONS exist, along with absolute falsifications.  We'll find a few in just a moment ...... Ready?

LC: Mr. Leigh is a deeply disturbed person. A quick look at the section of his website where he tells people of his very detailed plans for suicide will reveal that.

 

Voodoo obviously can't comprehend that page - it doesn't even contain the word suicide.  It's pretty apparent that he's studied my website very carefully, though.  Personally, I believe everyone on earth should have choices regarding end of life, such as advance directives, living wills, choice of medical treatment, etc. 

 

But that subject is completely irrelevant here.  It's time to dissect Voodoo Louie's "honest" and "truthful" words. 

 

Even without that someone who maintains a website of that size to criticize three people

 

The word "criticize" doesn't even apply.  I'm REBUTTING and CONTRADICTING lies and falsifications.

 

Additionally, all the pages of the WFFCW total a whopping 1.77 megabytes.  All of Voodoo Louie's pages currently total an astounding 644 kilobytes.  Most of us have at least ONE digital picture larger than the WFFCW website.

 

he's never even met

 

Thanks to the internet, it's not necessary to MEET someone to be subjected to the kind of public attacks, lies, accusations, and degrading remarks aimed at me and others.  Voodoo Louie supplied ME with the messages so I could print them, and rebut his falsifications.  That was his choice.  Now Voodoo whines and cries that they're all "forgeries".  Except that the FACTS prove differently.

 

is a stalker at best and a psychotic at worst.

 

I beg to differ - I'm an extremely honest man with self respect, and considerable respect for others.  Numerous professionals: my own psychologists, psychiatrist, and pastor, have not yet diagnosed me as "psychotic". 

LC: I'll let Ed tell you of his history with Mr. Leigh but as for me . . . We disagreed on several forums years back, beginning, I think it was on the PDL (Protection Dogs List). We argued about drives and Ecollars. At one point he asked for my credentials

 

Just one look at Voodoo's "Attack" pages will prove this falsification.  Simply follow the messages and dates.

 

The only one I know of who "asks for credentials" is Voodoo Louie.  And he does this endlessly, constantly, everywhere.

 

which I presented and then I asked for his.

 

Voodoo Louie "presented credentials" which - by his own words - are PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.  His claims of 25 years as K9 trainer are so utterly ridiculous there's only one word to describe them: LIES.  The K9 Martyr page conclusively proves this, along with numerous other Voodoo pages.  And Voodoo Louie wrote them HIMSELF.

 

He refused to present any for quite some time, saying that he wasn't required to show me anything. This continued until he realized that his credibility was being placed in doubt. He then presented some vague comments about having trained and titled "many dogs" in AKC obedience,

 

This is an excellent example of Voodoo Louie's habit of manufacturing LIES. 

 

FACT:  I have never, at any time in my life, shown a dog in any AKC competition, whatsoever.  I have never claimed to. 

OFFER:  If Voodoo Louie can produce VALID proof of this lie,

I will remove the ENTIRE Voodoo Louie Castle section of the WFFCW from existence,

INSTANTLY and PERMANENTLY - this offer EXPIRES on Sept. 27, 2004

RESULT:  Time's up - offer expired - Voodoo Louie had 3 weeks.

 

SchH

 

FACT:  I have unquestionably titled dogs in SchH, here in the United States and in Germany.  I've received DVG, SchH USA, and SV titles.  Same offer:

OFFER:  If Voodoo Louie can produce VALID proof of this lie,

I will remove the ENTIRE Voodoo Louie Castle section of the WFFCW from existence,

INSTANTLY and PERMANENTLY - this offer EXPIRES on Sept. 27, 2004

RESULT:  Time's up - offer expired - Voodoo Louie had 3 weeks.

 

and Ring Sport.

 

FACT:  I have never in my life ATTENDED any Ring Sport function, never mind competing or titling a dog.  I have never seen Ring Sport, and know nothing about it.  And - because I'm not the liar - I have never claimed any such thing.  Same offer:

OFFER:  If Voodoo Louie can produce VALID proof of this lie,

I will remove the ENTIRE Voodoo Louie Castle section of the WFFCW from existence,

INSTANTLY and PERMANENTLY - this offer EXPIRES on Sept. 27, 2004

RESULT:  Time's up - offer expired - Voodoo Louie had 3 weeks.

 

He also made references to having trained and supplied dogs to "many" police departments. I asked for specifics, the names of some dogs that he'd titled and references from some PD's that he'd supplied dogs for.

 

Voodoo Louie never "asked" - he DEMANDED - in dozens of public, humiliating and degrading messages.  That type of approach is something I will not tolerate.  His very own messages are all over this website, and are contained in the evidence zipfile for download.  The same type messages are all over the internet, in groups I've never even heard of.  When Voodoo demands "credentials" and "references", some people just roll over.  NOT ME. 

 

I think it's reasonable that someone making those claims would be PROUD to supply that information; yet Mr. Leigh steadfastly refused.

 

In case it isn't obvious, I don't care WHAT Voodoo Louie thinks is "reasonable".  When I'm publicly attacked and degraded, which is Voodoo's specialty, I PROUDLY do not take it like those who bend over for Voodoo Louie.   

 

I'll supply OR refuse whatever I want, whenever I want.  Voodoo Louie is not my judge, and I refuse to allow him that freedom.  I will not be interrogated by Voodoo Louie. 

 

If interrogation is a prerequisite for joining a mail group, then EVERYONE in the group should be required to submit to interrogation.  Until then - no interrogation.  

 

When I pointed out to him that in the face of such a refusal it was reasonable to believe that he wasn't being honest, he began personal attacks including name calling, general rudeness and profanity. He was finally thrown off that list.

 

This is pure Voodoo Louie bullshit.  I was removed from two lists for one simple reason:  I copied messages written by Voodoo Louie DIRECTLY to pages of the WFFCW and didn't ASK PERMISSION to do so.  There was no rudeness, no attacks, no profanity.

 

The list moderators made that perfectly clear.  This, too, is in the evidence zipfile.  Simply stated, the list moderators don't want to see the defamatory Voodoo Louie dirt from their wonderful "message groups" on a WEBSITE.  And THIS website gets hit. 

 

I unsubscribed from the Protection Dogs L list.  I wasn't "thrown off".  My "UNSUBSCRIBE" message is in the evidence zipfile.

LC: But that wasn't enough for him! He showed up on another list I was on and began the debates all over again. They went exactly the same way. We'd disagree and state our positions, he ask for my credentials, which I'd provide and then I'd ask for his. He'd refuse and then finally supply them but with no details.

 

First of all, I couldn't care less about Voodoo's "credentials".  I don't care about his insane "debates".  Voodoo Louie's stories change from one minute to the next. 

 

Secondly, I feel no need to supply Voodoo Louie with anything.  Voodoo Louie is NOT the judge, this is NOT a courtroom, and nobody's on trial.  If Voodoo Louie ACQUIRES THE AUTHORITY to interrogate me, I'll worry about it then.  Until such time, he's just out of luck. 

 

I'd ask for specifics and he'd go to personal attacks. This occurred on about half a dozen more lists,

 

I have not been on a half dozen dog related lists.  Let's try some honesty, and flush the Voodoo down the toilet:  Protection Dogs List, ECollars list, Malinois list, and Fred Hassen's private list - Voodoo Louie wasn't even allowed on that one.  SAR Dogs list (in which I didn't write anything, but captured a few Voodoo messages).

 

each discussion going nearly identically. Each of them culminating in the same flaming and with the result that he'd be thrown off the list. I felt that we could have cut and pasted our earlier comments to the "new" discussions. Finally he ran out of lists to repeat this process.

 

This is pure Voodoo bullshit, and the pages of this website prove it. 

If Voodoo Louie can prove I was thrown off any lists, he ought to do so.  WHAT LISTS?  REALITY is:  I finally realized that Voodoo Louie is allowed to write anything his heart desires, abuse, ridicule, challenge, and degrade people - and I realized almost ALL list moderators allow him to continue this without intervention or control.  I "ran out of" the stupidity of subjecting myself to Voodoo Louie's endless public degrading.  I stopped participating in email lists.  It's easy - just UNSUBSCRIBE.   

 

I wrote privately to one moderator about this, and she played smoke and mirror.  That was the Protection Dogs list, in which she claimed she wasn't the list owner one minute, and was the list owner the next minute.  I'm referring to a list I DID participate in - the Protection Dogs-L list, moderated (or owned) by a woman named "Dianne SanLorenzo".  Her messages are in the evidence zipfile. 

 

The other list was an SAR Dogs list, moderated by some woman named "Liz Marr", a list in which I don't believe I ever even wrote a message. 

 

I just copied two or three of Voodoo Louie's attack messages, degrading a gentleman named Jack Schuler, a man I'd never heard of before, and slapped together the "Jack Attack - Voodoo Attacks SAR" webpage.  Since I didn't "ask permission", Liz Marr removed me from the list.  Her messages are in the evidence zipfile.     

 

Now for a little TRUTH:  Because of his abusive, derogatory, inflammatory messages, Voodoo Louie was permanently banned from an ECollar list.  That, too, is contained on this page of the WFFCW.  So Louie promptly rejoined under a fake name ("Sam" - illustrating again what an honest cop Voodoo Louie actually is), was discovered immediately, and banned AGAIN.  THAT list moderator would NOT tolerate Voodoo's incessant abuse.  Congratulations to Eric Lundquist. 

 

Realizing the futility of trying to contain personal differences in PRIVATE MAIL, I created the WFFCW, featuring luminaries such as "Table Expert" Ed Frawley and Voodoo Louie Castle.  World K9 Challenge Expert Don Yarnell was included later. 

 

All three have exactly the same "qualities": they love to publicly abuse, degrade, belittle, and ridicule people.  It doesn't stop.  

 

Logically, the WFFCW is a far better vehicle - I don't need to type 9 million argumentative messages and take the abuse from Voodoo Louie that he thrives on.  I simply reprint Voodoo's messages word-for-word in RED, and add my comments in BLUE.  It can't get any simpler.

LC: He then began a private email war with me. There he went to profanity and name calling immediately. I'm an eternal optimist and thought that if I could just get him to listen to reason he'd calm down and we could have a decent conversation. I'm also an idiot to have thought this.

 

Read Voodoo's pages here on the WFFCW and determine for yourself about "decent conversation".  "Listen to reason"?  "Calm down"?  What Voodoo really means is "agree with me and supply your credentials".  NO, Voodoo.

 

If Voodoo had never supplied me with these messages, I would have nothing to rebut and no way to illustrate his own delusional contradictions.   

 

For several weeks we exchanged emails until finally I grew tired of the name calling and responded in kind. After asking him several times to stop bothering me, I had to block his email address to stop his insanity. But he just changed it and sent me another email. I blocked that email address and he again changed it to get his email through. This continued until I'd blocked six of his email names. I finally had to block his entire domain to get him to stop.

 

As usual, Voodoo Louie is a liar.  About 5 messages were exchanged privately within one or two days.  And that's about it.  Read this link, and see for yourself. 

 

Voodoo tosses around time like it's confetti - he's got the Voodoo Time Machine.  If Voodoo Louie can prove it, let him prove it.  The evidence zipfile already proves it.

LC: A few years back his wife passed away.

 

Voodoo Louie is a liar.

 

Rebecca, my wife, died on August 21, 2003.  Today's date is September 6, 2004.  The rest of the world can probably determine that's barely over one year.  In Voodoo Louie's "truthful" world, that's "a few years back".   Rebecca has been gone exactly 382 days. 

 

This is another excellent example of Voodoo's form of "accuracy".  Any dictionary will show "accuracy" is synonymous with "truth".  Is Voodoo Louie either "accurate" or "truthful"?  I SAY ABSOLUTELY NO.

 

I learned of it about a year afterwards and in spite of our history, sent him a brief sympathy note. I unblocked his addresses and domain to allow him to respond if he cared to; the optimist/idiot in me again. He wasn't even man enough to acknowledge it.

 

Voodoo Louie is a liar. 

 

He wrote his phony "condolence message" on November 30, 2003 - exactly 101 days after Rebecca's death.

 

I DID NOT acknowledge Voodoo Louie.  I don't believe he was sincere any more than I believe anything else he writes.  From past experiences, I believe Voodoo is nothing but a pathological, manipulating liar. 

 

I thanked many other people for their concern, compassion, and care.  They were sincere.  I'm "man enough" to acknowledge that Voodoo Louie Castle is full of shit.

 

But a short while ago he did start sending me rude emails again. Up went the blocks again.

 

Voodoo Louie is a liar. 

 

I sent Louie a polite invitation to see the newest update of the WFFCW.  Voodoo Louie took it from there.  It's shown above, right on this page.

LC: And so he retreated to his website where he can write whatever he wants with absolutely no one disagreeing or correcting him. He hasn't shown up on any public lists for a debate since, even though I've invited him numerous times.

 

Louie can disagree anytime he wants.  He can try to "correct" me, for all the good it will do him, but he can't ever change what he's written.

 

Debating is Voodoo Louie's job, not mine.  I created this website - despite the 30+ complaints from Frawley and Castle to Tampabay Roadrunner.

I have the same right as everyone else in the world - the right to REBUT, DISPUTE, COMMENT, and DENY any statements made by anyone, particularly any statements concerning me.  If I choose to do it on my website, that's MY choice.

The difference between myself and Voodoo Louie is very clear: I WRITE THE TRUTH - Voodoo Louie writes lies. 

 

LC: I believe that he's mentally unbalanced and that he needs medication. At times he goes off for no apparent reason.

 

There are licensed doctors to take care of that.  I certainly don't need Voodoo Louie Castle and his magical voodoo bullshit.

 

Out of the clear blue sky he'll email me and tell me to go look at his website as he has a couple of times.

 

That's correct.  I wouldn't want Voodoo to think "his" WFFCW website disappeared.  It's still here.  Periodically I remind him, periodically others remind him, periodically a link is posted to the WFFCW on various message groups. 

 

If you haven't picked up on this: If Voodoo had BLOCKED my email addresses (as he claims above), then how would he ever know I sent him messages to go look at this website?  He claims my entire DOMAINS are blocked. 

 

Now - naturally - along comes one of his famous Voodoo Louie lying excuses.     

 

(For some reason when I upgraded my email system the blocks didn't carry over so he was able to get through.)

 

Sure!  How often do we upgrade?  Louie has received update notices plenty of times in the last three years.  I suppose each time, he had JUST UPGRADED his system, and the blocks FAILED each time!  My, my, my - how convenient - "for some reason". 

 

Anyone in the WORLD could recognize a message from steve at sl-prokeys dot com and delete it immediately if they choose to. 

 

But Voodoo Louie didn't delete - instead he READ the messages - which is how he knows they referred to this website, rather than any other topic!  Get out the smoke and mirrors - and bring along the LSD, too.  It's Voodoo Time.

 

Just a few weeks ago he phoned me. He has a very distinctive voice and I recognized him immediately.

 

Voodoo Louie is a pathological liar. 

 

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE NEED TO TAKE NOTE:  He claims "just a few weeks ago he phoned me". 

 

I never called Voodoo Louie Castle before September 6, 2004.

 

Since I've never had a phone conversation with Voodoo Louie in my life, "He has a very distinctive voice and I recognized him immediately" leaves a LOT to be explained.  We'll see how he "Voodoos" his way out of this one. 

 

Besides stating, "This is Steve Leigh", when Voodoo Louie answered the phone, maybe he looked at his magical "Voodoo Caller ID"?

 

He said, "Turn off your phone so I can leave a message." I asked why he didn't want to talk man to man and he hung up. He called back about 45 minutes later and when I answered he said, "I don't want to talk to you." And then shouted, "TURN OFF YOUR PHONE!" He quickly hung up. He called again about two hours later and this time shouted, "TURN OFF YOUR PHONE!" Again, he quickly hung up. He phoned a few hours later and shouted, "DO IT NOW!" This time he didn't hang up. Growing weary of this stupidity I told him to stop calling and warned him that if he called again, I'd report him to the police. I then hung up on him. He called back about two minutes later and again shouted, "DO IT NOW!" and then hung up.

 

Please don't be surprised, but Voodoo Louie is a liar. 

 

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE NEED TO TAKE NOTE:  Voodoo Louie claims FIVE phone calls within approximately 5 hours.

Read Voodoo Louie's OWN WORDS:

 

call #1 - "He said "Turn off your phone so I can leave a message."

call #2 - "He called back about 45 minutes later" : "I don't want to talk to you." "TURN OFF YOUR PHONE!"

call #3 - "He called again about 2 hours later" : "TURN OFF YOUR PHONE!"

call #4 - "He phoned a few hours later" : "DO IT NOW!"

call #5 - "He called back about two minutes later" : "DO IT NOW!"

 

These are direct Voodoo Louie quotes - don't lose track of this detailed Voodoo collection of bullshit and falsification. 

 

Also, ladies and gentlemen, kindly note that Voodoo Louie's own words CLEARLY indicate a grand total of 31 words spoken by me within FIVE phone calls.  Take another look above, and see for yourself.  Have I miscounted?

 

However, my telephone bill plainly shows a grand total of five phone calls, on five different dates, over a period of FOURTEEN DAYS - September 6 through September 19.  Only one call was made on each of five different dates, none exceeding 4 minutes.  And the last call wasn't even made by me. 

 

Be sure to read this page and compare Voodoo's lies to the facts.  And please DO click on the link above to see the original screen capture.  Voodoo Louie can't tell the same story twice without lying at least once.

I called Voodoo's "Internet Phone Training Hotline", and asked him politely to not answer, so I could call right back.  I clearly explained I wanted to leave him a voice mail for posterity.  I wanted to leave a message that he would be able to hear more than one time and refer to, should he need clarification.  Voodoo obviously can't understand anything very well, so a recorded message would be HELPFUL to his ability to comprehend.  He could play it over and over and over, maybe it would sink in. 

LC: Even on the telephone he wants to talk and talk and not be corrected or interrupted.

 

But according to Voodoo Louie, I spoke EXACTLY THIRTY ONE WORDS in FIVE calls. 

That's "talk and talk"? 

That's an average of SIX WORDS per call, with one word left over.   

 

I wanted to leave a message on Voodoo's VOICE MAIL, but Louie couldn't handle that, it was entirely too frightening for him.  There's nothing to "talk" about with Voodoo Louie.

 

Voodoo Louie Castle is not mentally capable of correcting me.  That's out of the question.   

 

A few years back I consulted an attorney to see about suing him to get him to take down some of the information on his website.

 

SEVENTEEN TIMES - in approximately three weeks - Voodoo Louie "consulted" the Legal and Security Supervisors at Tampabay Roadrunner with his complaints and threats of lawsuits.  He wanted the WFFCW removed from the internet.  Their response:  UNFOUNDED.  Apparently Voodoo's threats and complaints didn't work very well.  The WFFCW is still here, isn't it?

 

Since I've made myself an Internet public figure (if there is such a thing)

 

OH YES!  Voodoo Louie certainly IS an "internet public figure"!  And what a "figure" he IS!

 

I have nearly 800 emails which all say the same basic thing:  Voodoo Louie Castle is nothing but an ego bloated, wannabe dog trainer, a lying, exaggerating, obnoxious, inflammatory, argumentative pain in the ass.  Read a few Voodoo pages - see for yourself.  If I ever get around to it, I'll place a few hundred MORE "fan letters" on his pages, and include them in the evidence zipfile.  Why not give some more free publicity and credit to our favorite "INTERNET PUBLIC FIGURE"?

 

I think that some comment, some criticism and even some rudeness is and should be allowed. But Mr. Leigh has crossed the line into actual libel when he puts up much of the information that is on that website.

 

Well then, Voodoo can specify exactly what "much of the information" is "actual libel".  If my attorney agrees, I'll remove it.  Otherwise, it stays.  I'm a fair and honest person - and I just gave my word publicly. 

 

The attorney said it was an obvious case and offered to initiate the lawsuit for $50,000. (That was just the starting point.)

 

Since it's such "an obvious case", surely Voodoo Louie can convince him, or some other attorney, to take the "case" on contingency.  After all - Voodoo can't lose, right?  Most attorneys who actually believe they can win will accept a case on contingency.    

 

The problem is that I don’t have 50K on hand.

 

No?  Another famous Voodoo Louie Castle excuse.  With all that disability from all those injuries, all those Ecollar seminars Voodoo Louie puts on, all those Dogtra AND Tritronics Ecollar sales, all the dog training Voodoo Louie claims he does, the customers Voodoo Louie turns away because he has TOO MANY training clients, that awesome Voodoo Louie website, and NO MONEY?  How could that be - a world famous "internet public figure" such as Voodoo Louie Castle?

Does Voodoo Louie have any collateral?

I might have covered the whole table, but I ran out.

Maybe these pictures are "forgeries".

And when we won, because Mr. Leigh has no assets to take. It would be an empty judgment. But if you all want to chip in I'll be happy to go forward with the case! LOL!

 

Unfortunately, Voodoo Louie's finally right.  I have no assets that he can take.  Unless Louie would like to try and take this ....

 

If I win the lottery, I'll be sure to let him know immediately. 

 

However, I have some things that Voodoo Louie never had: honesty, accuracy, dignity, and self respect.  Voodoo Louie can try and sue me for them.  He'll never get them any other way.

 

But Voodoo - YOU CAN NEVER WIN.  The WFFCW proves - THANKS TO YOUR OWN MESSAGES - precisely what you've typed over the years.  Not even your punctuation has been changed.  Archives exist from every list you've ever been on.  The evidence zipfile is nothing but a miniscule example of your endless lies and internet conflicts.